Steamfitter - Pipefitter (SFP)

2022 Guide - Second Period Package (39 Modules) Comments

Date: 5/17/2023 7:56:05 AM
Module: 070201a
Version: 24
Page: 27
Comment: In the Specifications section of Example Two on page 27, ILM states Bolt hole diameter = 20 mm. But IPT Pipe Trades page 229, shows it should be 22 mm. If accepted, this comment will also affect the corresponding One half scale value, changing from 6.67 mm to 7.3 mm.
Status: Approved for Review

Date: 1/1/2019 12:00:00 AM
Module: 070201g
Version: 5.2
Page: 33
Comment: Last sentence of 3rd paragraph states that propylene glycol has slightly better heat transfer capability than ethylene glycol. ILM 070305m v5.1 page 9, 2nd paragraph states the exact opposite. Please clarify.
Status: Update in Progress

Date: 1/17/2023 1:21:24 PM
Module: 070201r
Version: 21
Page: 30
Comment: Self Test Answers #10 should be d). resistance to flow of an electric current Which is how a TDS meter works. It certainly does not measure all minerals, salts and metals in solution, as the answer indicates in b)
Status: Approved for Review

Date: 5/10/2021 8:57:49 AM
Module: 070202b
Version: 21
Page: 17
Comment: Figure 17 shows the wrong illustration.
Status: Implemented

Date: 9/29/2021 2:40:24 PM
Module: 070202c
Version: 22
Page: 7
Comment: Figure 10 on page 7, on the left-hand side, states 'Life' but it should be 'Lift'. "Boom Elevating or Lift Cylinders"
Status: Update in Progress

Date: 9/29/2021 2:56:26 PM
Module: 070202c
Version: 22
Page: 14
Comment: On page 14 just above the Caution box. Before they put the new images in the ILM's there used to be 3 bullets, followed by a blank line, and then the sentence: "If the crane is to lift the load without tipping, the crane leverage must be greater than the load leverage." In this new version, the bullets are gone, but the text of the bullets is there. And following the text of the 3rd bullet, there is no space between it and the next sentence, creating a confusing run-on sentence. Have a look at previous versions for comparison.
Status: Update in Progress

Date: 1/18/2022 9:41:03 AM
Module: 070203a
Version: 21
Page: 8
Comment: The image for Figure 6 is missing.
Status: Implemented

Date: 4/19/2023 1:43:21 PM
Module: 070204b
Version: 24
Page: 14
Comment: In the second paragraph, the first sentence says "...(1//2" to 144" national pipe size [NPS] ..." That should say nominal instead of national. Also, same paragraph, second sentence, it says " ... 150 pounds per square inch general (psig) ..." That should say gauge instead of general.
Status: Approved for Review

Date: 4/25/2023 9:35:11 AM
Module: 070204b
Version: 24
Page: 14
Comment: In ILM 070204b page 14, second paragraph, first sentence: it states national pipe size (NPS). That should say nominal, instead of national. In the second sentence, it states: 150 pound per square inch general (psig). That should say gauge, instead of general.
Status: Approved for Review

Date: 4/26/2023 9:42:13 AM
Module: 070204c
Version: 24
Page: 1
Comment: Throughout ILM 070204c there is a mixture of spellings of gray cast iron (sometimes grey with an 'e'). For consistency's sake, I suggest that all instances be spelled with 'a' as this is how it is spelled in IPT Pipe Trades.
Status: Approved for Review

Date: 4/20/2023 12:55:41 PM
Module: 070204d
Version: 24
Page: 7
Comment: Starting on page 7, and carrying on to various parts of the ILM, there is a variety of numbering systems used to identify alloys. For example, on page 7, stainless steels are listed as 200, 300, and 400 series. I think these are AISI or SAE or ASTM code numbers. Then on page 9 in the Aluminum Alloy section, it references the 3003, 6061, and 6063 aluminum code numbers. Then it goes on to state the first number of those codes is the most important and lists some examples but does not state which code is used. I think it is the Aluminum Association (AA) codes. I think some text should be added to the ILM to describe the various numbering systems and the corresponding codes, and the gradual move to the Unified Numbering System (UNS). In an older version of this ILM (070204c version 5.0), there were pages 21-22, that described the problem of having the various codes (AISI, SAE, ASTM, AA, etc.) and how the UNS aims to solve this. It would be nice to have that text, and an even more in-depth explanation, back in this ILM v.24.
Status: Approved for Review

Date: 4/20/2023 11:23:51 AM
Module: 070204d
Version: 24
Page: 8
Comment: Near the top of page 8, the acronym AISI is used for the first time in this ILM, but is not defined. I suggest that it be defined (American Iron and Steel Institute), as it is good practice to define acronyms the first time they are used. You may also consider adding a link to the AISI website: steel.org
Status: Approved for Review

Date: 4/20/2023 9:28:18 AM
Module: 070204d
Version: 24
Page: 19
Comment: On page 19, the text for the bullet "Potential (emf) Difference" says: 'the metal higher in the series will corrode and protect the one lower in the series.' In a much older version of this topic there used to be a chart/table with various noble metals listed, and the less noble metals were at the top, and the more noble metals at the bottom. So the statement 'the metal higher in the series' when compared to the chart, made sense, as it referred to the less noble metal at the TOP of the chart. But without the chart, the definition now in the ILM is somewhat confusing. On the previous page 18, it now states 'ions of material are removed from the lower (less noble)' and this is correct as I understand electrolysis. My suggestion is to edit page 19 and change 'metal higher in the series' to say 'lower less noble metal in the series.' And also change on page 19 'the one lower in the series' to be 'the higher more noble metal in the series.' These edits will make it be consistent with the text on page 18. Also, *if* you do want to put the chart/table back in (and I don't necessarily think it should be, but would be nice), then please have the chart put the more noble metals at the top and the less noble metals at the bottom (the reverse of the old chart; there are good examples all over the internet.)
Status: Approved for Review

Date: 12/18/2024 8:48:10 AM
Module: 070204d
Version: 24
Page:
Comment: Objective 3 activity has 2 wrong questions 10,11. They say low thermal conductivity for aluminum and copper but they have high thermal conductivity.
Status: Approved for Review

Date: 5/15/2023 1:20:15 PM
Module: 070204e
Version: 24
Page: 2
Comment: On page 2 070204e version 24, the last paragraph states RTG (ring type gasket) is shown in Figure 1. This looks the same if not exactly like 1st year Figure 24, page 26, from ILM 210102c version 24. Except in 1st year it is RTJ ring type joint (not gasket). Also, IPT Pipe Trades, starting on page 223 and continuing throughout the Flange section, uses the term Ring Joint to describe this flange. Shouldn't this 070204e ILM be consistent in naming by using RTJ instead of RTG?
Status: Approved for Review

Date: 5/15/2023 12:34:11 PM
Module: 070204e
Version: 24
Page: 3
Comment: On page 3 of 070204e version 24, there are 3 joining methods mentioned. These 3 appear to be for thermoplastic material, but that is not mentioned anywhere. It is of particular concern for the 1st method, Fusion Welding, since this method could apply to metals and other types of materials.
Status: Approved for Review

Date: 5/5/2023 9:23:37 AM
Module: 070204f
Version: 24
Page: 24
Comment: ILM 070204f, page 24, 3rd paragraph: The first sentence starts with "To convert to the SI" and is followed by parenthesis defining SI as "Standard Imperial". SI actually stands for "Systeme Internationale" (french).
Status: Approved for Review

Date: 6/13/2022 10:55:47 AM
Module: 070205b
Version: 24
Page:
Comment: Figures 24-27 all show dimension G at the top right of the image, but it should be dimension F. This dimension should be F because as you progress through the text and images of the example described in the text, when you get to Figure 27, the correct dimension G is shown near the centre of the image, resulting in a duplicate G at the top right. If you change the image as suggested above, you will also need to edit/change the text on page 20, paragraph 3, last sentence. Change to reference F instead of G. Also on page 20, the first sentence should reference Figure 26, not Figure 19.
Status: Approved for Review

Date: 4/27/2023 1:32:22 PM
Module: 070205b
Version: 24
Page: 1
Comment: In the old version 21 of 070206c Piping Offsets, on pages 17 to 27, was Offsets Around Corners content. This content seems to be missing from this new ILM 070205b version 24, and it seems to me it would fit into Objective Two.
Status: Approved for Review

Date: 6/13/2022 1:45:18 PM
Module: 070205c
Version: 24
Page: 22
Comment: On page 22, in the Specifications section of Example One, it states the Actual ID for the gasket as 50 mm. According to IPT Pipe Trades page 224, quote: The I.D. of gasket should equal the outside diameter of the pipe for full and raised face. end quote. It appears the author has used the NPS as the ID of the gasket, but according to IPT the ID of gasket should be OD of pipe (not NPS). In this Example One, it should be 60.3 mm (according to IPT page 33.) If you accept this comment, then also change the Specifications in Example Two on page 27, Actual ID should be 168.3 mm.
Status: Approved for Review

Date: 5/16/2023 10:08:53 AM
Module: 070205c
Version: 24
Page: 10
Comment: Figure 15 is supposed to show an angle, but in my version, it only has one-half of the angle.
Status: Approved for Review

Date: 5/16/2023 10:36:47 AM
Module: 070205c
Version: 24
Page: 22
Comment: In the Specifications section of Example One at the bottom of page 22, ILM states Bolt hole diameter = 16 mm. But IPT Pipe Trades page 229, shows it should be 19 mm. If accepted, this comment will also affect the corresponding One half scale value, changing from 8 mm to 9.5 mm.
Status: Approved for Review

Date: 6/14/2022 2:21:23 PM
Module: 070205e
Version: 24
Page: 6
Comment: Top of page 6, it appears the first sentence has been truncated and is missing some text. Probably should say something like: Draw the isometric top view on the ...
Status: Implemented

Date: 6/13/2023 10:36:32 AM
Module: 070205g
Version: 24
Page: 17
Comment: Objective Three: Define Coordinate Systems. ILM pages 17-18 are the only pages in this ILM for this objective, and they only describe one of the two main coordinate systems. The two systems are: grid line coordinates (as seen in objective three), and compass coordinates. Compass coordinates use compass directions, such as northings and eastings, or northings and westings. There is a brief mention of northings and westings on page 3 of this ILM, but I think it should be described in detail in objective three, along with related activities.
Status: Approved for Review

Date: 5/17/2023 12:49:21 PM
Module: 070206a
Version: 24
Page: 23
Comment: Objective Three Activity, question # 2. I believe the answer should be 'a' instead of 'b'. Rationale: BTUs = 62 lbs x 105 ΔT x 1 SH = 6510 BTUs
Status: Approved for Review

Date: 9/13/2024 12:25:41 PM
Module: 070206b
Version: 24
Page: 11
Comment: Servo Regulators on page 11. Nothing is labeled 'servo' in Figure 15 which is meant to illustrate a servo regulator. Please verify this is the correct Figure.
Status: Approved for Review

Date: 9/13/2024 12:28:01 PM
Module: 070206b
Version: 24
Page: 17
Comment: Figure 23 on page 17. The bottom left label should say 7" (not 7').
Status: Approved for Review

Date: 9/16/2024 9:21:54 AM
Module: 070206b
Version: 24
Page: 41
Comment: Page 41, Objective Six Activity, Question 1. I calculate the answer to be 115 ft3/hr, which is none of the choices. The answer on page 56, says a) 100 ft3/hr, and on page 41, 100 ft3/hr is b). My calculation: using Table 2, at 36 seconds, the 1 ft3/hr dial shows 100 ft3/hr. But the question says the pressure correction factor (pcf) is 1.15. So multiply 100 ft3/hr times 1.15 (pcf) to get 115 ft3/hr. The remaining questions in the Activity have correct answers, using the provided pcf.
Status: Approved for Review

Date: 9/24/2024 8:07:33 AM
Module: 070206c
Version: 24
Page: 17
Comment: In Example Six, first sentence says the selector switch is set at R x 10", but the double quote " should not be there.
Status: Approved for Review


Archived Comments

Year: 2021

1/8/2021 1:31:06 PM
Module: 070204c
Version: 21
Page: 12
Comment: Second paragraph under the heading "Martensitic Steels" needs its own heading "Austenitic Steel", as that is what the paragraph is about.
Status: Implemented

1/6/2021 3:22:23 PM
Module: 070204b
Version: 21
Page: 17
Comment: For clarification purposes, I suggest that Figure 10 be rotated 180° so that it matches the orientation of itself in the assembly below in Figure 11.
Status: Implemented

Year: 2019

1/1/2019 12:00:00 AM
Module: 070206b
Version: 5.2
Page: 4
Comment: All tables in the module are in imperial. Most of the other learning modules are in imperial and metric. Why is it mixed? Wouldn't it be easier and more precisely for the trades using only one system (to avoid mistakes and misinterpretation)? Wouldn't it be easier to deal with only one system? Metric or imperial.
Status: Declined